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Does qBittorrent have a proper TOR support?
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:31 am
by kollin
I'm asking this question because of the following article and I just want to be sure that i'm safe with qBittorrent +TOR
There are three pieces to the attack (or three separate attacks that build on each other, if you prefer).
The first attack is on people who configure their Bittorrent application to proxy their tracker traffic through Tor. These people are hoping to keep their IP address secret from somebody looking over the list of peers at the tracker. The problem is that several popular Bittorrent clients (the authors call out uTorrent in particular, and I think Vuze does it too) just ignore their socks proxy setting in this case. Choosing to ignore the proxy setting is understandable, since modern tracker designs use the UDP protocol for communication, and socks proxies such as Tor only support the TCP protocol -- so the developers of these applications had a choice between "make it work even when the user sets a proxy that can't be used" and "make it mysteriously fail and frustrate the user". The result is that the Bittorrent applications made a different security decision than some of their users expected, and now it's biting the users.
The full story:
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittor ... -good-idea
Do you, guys, have any tips regarding qBittorrent+TOR combination
Re: Does qBittorrent have a proper TOR support?
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:19 am
by loki
Probably have to get developer of qB or maybe even libtorrent but, I had always thought torrent protocol relied on BOTH TCP and UDP to be operational.
Re: Does qBittorrent have a proper TOR support?
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:11 am
by kollin
[quote="loki"]
Probably have to get developer of qB or maybe even libtorrent but, I had always thought torrent protocol relied on BOTH TCP and UDP to be operational.
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Yes, i just wanted a clarification, because i'm not an expert ...
Re: Does qBittorrent have a proper TOR support?
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:09 am
by Dayman
[quote="loki"]
Probably have to get developer of qB or maybe even libtorrent but, I had always thought torrent protocol relied on BOTH TCP and UDP to be operational.
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UDP is only used by DHT/PEX/LSD, udp trackers and uTP. If i remember correctly original bittorent protocol w/o all those extensions doesn't use UDP at all.
Re: Does qBittorrent have a proper TOR support?
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:26 am
by kollin
[quote="Dayman"]
UDP is only used by DHT/PEX/LSD, udp trackers and uTP. If i remember correctly original bittorent protocol w/o all those extensions doesn't use UDP at all.
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So if i disable DHT/PEX/LSD, i'll be safe ?
Re: Does qBittorrent have a proper TOR support?
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:52 am
by kollin
I tried it with TOR. It works (connects with the tracker and peers ), but ocasonaly qbittorent leaks my real IP
ss -eap | grep -i qbit
LISTEN 0 5 *:6881 *:* users:(("qbittorrent",4587,13)) uid:1000 ino:8522 sk:ffff88022c92de80
LISTEN 0 5 *:4433 *:* users:(("qbittorrent",4587,14)) uid:1000 ino:8524 sk:ffff88022c92d7c0
ESTAB 0 0 127.0.0.1:53548 127.0.0.1:9050 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,35)) uid:1000 ino:425931 sk:ffff880164d71440
ESTAB 0 0 127.0.0.1:53546 127.0.0.1:9050 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,33)) uid:1000 ino:425929 sk:ffff880164d73600
ESTAB 0 0 127.0.0.1:53547 127.0.0.1:9050 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,28)) uid:1000 ino:425930 sk:ffff880164d70000
ESTAB 0 0 127.0.0.1:53536 127.0.0.1:9050 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,34)) uid:1000 ino:425889 sk:ffff880164d706c0
ESTAB 0 0 127.0.0.1:53540 127.0.0.1:9050 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,40)) uid:1000 ino:426625 sk:ffff88014562f2c0
ESTAB 0 0 127.0.0.1:53554 127.0.0.1:9050 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,49)) uid:1000 ino:425937 sk:ffff8801454f6540
ESTAB 0 0 7*.**.**.**:6881 141.237.17.112:63002 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,48)) uid:1000 ino:425912 sk:ffff880164d73cc0
ESTAB 0 0 127.0.0.1:53553 127.0.0.1:9050 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,43)) uid:1000 ino:425936 sk:ffff8801454f4a40
ESTAB 0 0 127.0.0.1:53555 127.0.0.1:9050 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,50)) uid:1000 ino:425938 sk:ffff8801454f3600
ESTAB 0 0 127.0.0.1:52900 127.0.0.1:9050 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,22)) uid:1000 ino:424272 sk:ffff880145569440
ESTAB 0 0 127.0.0.1:53551 127.0.0.1:9050 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,41)) uid:1000 ino:425934 sk:ffff88022c92e540
CLOSE-WAIT 1 0 127.0.0.1:34043 127.0.0.1:9050 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,20)) uid:1000 ino:8544 sk:ffff88022c929440
ESTAB 0 0 127.0.0.1:53550 127.0.0.1:9050 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,39)) uid:1000 ino:425933 sk:ffff88022c928d80
ESTAB 0 0 127.0.0.1:53285 127.0.0.1:9050 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,42)) uid:1000 ino:425124 sk:ffff880164c4d100
ESTAB 0 0 127.0.0.1:53549 127.0.0.1:9050 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,38)) uid:1000 ino:425932 sk:ffff880164d721c0
ESTAB 0 0 127.0.0.1:53552 127.0.0.1:9050 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,44)) uid:1000 ino:425935 sk:ffff88022c92f2c0
ESTAB 0 0 127.0.0.1:53521 127.0.0.1:9050 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,51)) uid:1000 ino:425870 sk:ffff880164d74380
ESTAB 0 0 127.0.0.1:53533 127.0.0.1:9050 users:(("qbittorrent",4587,27)) uid:1000 ino:425886 sk:ffff880164d75100
The address starting with 7 is my real IP
Re: Does qBittorrent have a proper TOR support?
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:18 pm
by sledgehammer_999
Have you disabled uTP(?TP)? (Options->Speed->Enable bandwidth management(utp))
Re: Does qBittorrent have a proper TOR support?
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:35 pm
by kollin
[quote="sledgehammer_999"]
Have you disabled uTP(?TP)? (Options->Speed->Enable bandwidth management(utp))
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You are correct, disabling uTP(?TP) did the trick
Thank you !
Re: Does qBittorrent have a proper TOR support?
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:14 pm
by Seedthis
Tor isn't really suitable for torrent use though. It's not designed to do this and using it with torrent clients is causing damage to the Tor Project as it attracts "copyright owners"
See
this article for example
If you want some anonimity
-> for free : you can use private trackers with https websites or I2P
-> paid services : cheap VPNs (allowing P2P) or seedboxes (pricier). You have to be careful with VPN, some log too much information.
Re: Does qBittorrent have a proper TOR support?
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:10 am
by Peter
I hope you are aware that torrenting through TOR literally kills the whole network... :/
Just get a VPN who doesn't keep any logs and that's it.
Re: Does qBittorrent have a proper TOR support?
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:10 pm
by kollin
[quote="shiki"]
I hope you are aware that torrenting through TOR literally kills the whole network... :/
Just get a VPN who doesn't keep any logs and that's it.
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Yes i know and i'm currently investigating my options
Can you advise my about vpn or seedbox, it seems i can't find info about what they log about their users
P.S. Does enabling encryption on torrent client side prevents my ISP of seeing the file names of the torrents?
Re: Does qBittorrent have a proper TOR support?
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:22 pm
by Peter
Here is the topic I started previously:
http://qbforums.shiki.hu/index.php?topic=816.0
They say what they log and what they don't.
BTGuard keeps no log at all, and no one sees what you download (not even a portion, a filename) if you use the encryption with it.
Re: Does qBittorrent have a proper TOR support?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:51 pm
by kollin
[quote="shiki"]
Here is the topic I started previously:
http://qbforums.shiki.hu/index.php?topic=816.0
They say what they log and what they don't.
BTGuard keeps no log at all, and no one sees what you download (not even a portion, a filename) if you use the encryption with it.
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Thank you, you are very kind
