Fake peers - Crypto miners

[tweakin]

Hi there,
I am new to this forum, please excuse me if doing something wrong.
In past few months me and my colleagues face huge issues with peers who are mining crypto currencies with torrent clients. They are connecting to our torrents and downloading ONLY. After finish download they do not SEED at all. When they download they have very slow download speed and take almost all slots so the normal users cannot connect and reach the uploader. Because of them all new uploaded stuff are barely accessible.
I really like the option for manually ban IP peers. My question is are there any file located in the qBittorrent program that collects all of the manually banned IP's ?

For example is there option to import/export these addresses easily so we can share them in one specific list?

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These crypto miners are the killing of peer2peer community!

[Peter]

In past few months me and my colleagues face huge issues with peers who are mining crypto currencies with torrent clients. They are connecting to our torrents and downloading ONLY. After finish download they do not SEED at all

Those are just people who have limited upload speed manually. Or no upload slots or anything.
But, if you don't upload, many public swarms will be super slow, so it's their loss really.

There are no leecher clients available in 2022 (unless you use public trackers) because they are all banned on private trackers.
They existed in the past.
Like BitComet was one I think or BitLord? Some browser add-ons allowed you to download torrents too (like FlashGet or something similar), and I think a Swiss university also made a leecher client. They never made much sense because people just deleted the tracker from the torrent after they started to download to avoid actually adding the download to their account anyway. Which takes like 2 seconds.

So... yeah. And crypto miners.. have nothing to do with torrenting, p2p lol. That's a different crowd.
Trust me I share your dislike/hatred about them. But they ruin other things (like the hardware prices, GPU market, environment*).


So there is no blocklist available against these leechers.
A few things:
- Use private trackers. People are "forced" to seed there. You meet way fewer malicious users there as well.
- Check their client. What client are they using?


* The electricity they use, and the stress they put on the grid is already horrible. But all the hardware that could serve a regular user, power user or even a server for 5-10 years easily, is now thrown into the trash within a few years because of the abuse they go through. A GPU could easily last a decade at a regular Joe, playing games almost all day. Now it's just tossed into a landfill within 2 years because it broke under the 24-7 stress. Before any crypto miner comments here how every operation runs with 24-7 AC and super great cooling... yeah no, that's like the super best scenario, maybe 1% of the miners actually do that lol. It ain't worth it really to mess with all that.

[Peter]

I would like to get into cryptocurrency investing, but I know very little about it.
What do I need to start investing?
Please tell me what I need to learn about mining and cryptocurrency, I will be very grateful)

Maybe it's spam, maybe it's bait, but here is your reply:
The ship has sailed. Both mining and investing are only worth it today if you have a lot of cash to burn.
Mining: mining is hardly profitable today - people do it to invest in "future coins" that may skyrocket in the future so they can sell them. They just mine whatever makes sense in the current market. But this mining ain't cheap. You need special rigs like "Chia" which is mined using hard drives/SSDs. And sometimes you just end up mining/holding junk, and you just throw all the equipment out, because they just die from the abuse. Again, it's a high-risk, low chance "investment". I would not even call it an investment, it's pretty much just a high-risk hobby.
If you have so much money, investing in real estate, starting a business or two, or even sports betting might make more sense lol.

Investing: It's like investing in stocks or currency, except its 1000% more volatile. Again, same business as mining. You pretty much place your bet on various coins and hope they skyrocket. But, most of them are just pump and dump schemes. Some scammer comes up with a coin, some celeb promotes it and they scam millions out of dumb people. And the next scam goes around.

All in all, you need to know what you are doing, and you need a lot of money you can just burn and you won't miss.
It's not a sensible investment in any way. Same with stocks. People think you just download an app and you or some "bots" will trade for you.
Yeah, they will trade, you will end up in so much debt within a week you will never pay it off.
There is a reason why people study stock trading for years.

I highly recommend these Youtube channels. They make a lot of videos exposing online scam, crypto scam, etc.:
https://www.youtube.com/c/SpencerCornelia
https://www.youtube.com/c/Coffeezilla

[MasterCluster]

But what's wrong with trading? I just started to get interested in it, learned a lot of theory and decided to try it in practice, but it hasn't gotten to that point yet. Here, I read publics, I think where to start. I never thought that mining is done purely on new coins.. You opened my eyes to a lot. What about the NFT? I heard that it is also tied to some coin. Does it work the same or is it just digital drawings or music bought with coins?

[Peter]

But what's wrong with trading?
What about the NFT? I heard that it is also tied to some coin. Does it work the same or is it just digital drawings or music bought with coins?

What's wrong with trading coins? With just trading? Nothing.

One issue with coins, NFT, crypto is the countless amount of scams out there. The pump and dump scams/schemes. The pyramid/MLM ones. Have you seen The Wolf of Wall Street? It's kinda like that, except every single influencer, hot swimsuit insta girl and failed IT dude is trying to convince you which scam coin will be the next miracle coin.

And even if you don't fall for any of those, and you just have a legit coin portfolio. Oh man, the market is so volatile. There were coins called "stable coins" which were meant to be.. well, stable. One of the most popular one was "Terra (Luna) coin". Long story short, it turned out to be another trainwreck.

Article about the Terra (Luna) fall: https://www.forbes.com/sites/qai/2022/0 ... na-crypto/


How do I say this.. stocks and trading is not "the evil" for sure. But it's a game for the rich and wealthy. If you have money to burn, if you can afford losing a million $ and you won't even wink? Then it might be for you. Even then, you have to learn a LOT to even have a chance. Lot of these scams work because of the fools who try this form of "investment" and fail at it horribly.
But don't worry if you think falling for coins or NFT is the only thing where you can lose all your money. There are also sport bettings, betting in general.. the list goes on. The linked channels before mention a lot of these.

"NFT tied to coin" - it depends. I mean you can sell it for coins, you can sell it for real cash, as far as I am aware. Then again, it's just as (if not more) volatile as coins.

Oh and why is this whole business more risky than ever? Well, companies let people invest now with almost no money. Ie.: You only put in like 100$ and they will "loan you" 1000$ to buy stocks, or even more. One blink of an eye, one small dip, and you are in debt with thousands.

I'm not saying sitting on money is the best investment. You can only make money with money. But you have to be really careful. You don't have the same safety-net like one of these "crypto bros". You don't have a billionaire daddy who will bail you out if you lose a few millions on the market. Be safe.